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PostSubject: Rational Interfaith Community Outreach   Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:25 pm

I'm gravitating towards the creation of an "interfaith" group that encircles the "nontheistic" faiths --- humanism, agnosticism, atheism, deism, pantheism/deism, etc. in an effort to create a fellowship that _does_ things for the benefit of their local community.

I dunno --- it irks me when I hear "you're a 'nonbeliever,' you 'can't' be noble, (or generous, supportive, etc.)." Does anyone here have that feeling?

I may change the focus of the Meetup accordingly... and if we want to, we have a get together and discuss concepts, too.
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PostSubject: Re: Rational Interfaith Community Outreach   Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:42 pm

Lykos Minister wrote:
I'm gravitating towards the creation of an "interfaith" group that encircles the "nontheistic" faiths --- humanism, agnosticism, atheism, deism, pantheism/deism, etc. in an effort to create a fellowship that _does_ things for the benefit of their local community.

LM

I think you will find that almost everyone on this forum has had the experience of being shunned by the theistic faiths. And, due to our disorganized minority status, many of us have considered creating or joining some kind of "interfaith" association. But then the problem arises, which one? The answer to that nagging question might rain on your local and global parade.

We already have so many options to choose from it's bewildering. The Unitarian Church would claim fellowship with all of the "non-theistic faiths" you listed. As would the Council for Secular Humanism ("Secular Humanism, serving secular humanists, atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, rationalists, skeptics, and all those ..."). Another option for local fellowship in Santa Cruz California is the Society of Esseans International. And there are numerous cyberspace "communities" including the Freethought Fellowship, an offshoot from the briefly successful Universism worldwide community with local meetups. And then there are the local meetings sponsored by the Positive Deism and Deist Alliance websites.

The problem with all of these ecumenical inter-faith efforts is that they eventually tend to break-down along the boundaries of those same informal categories of belief. Apparently freethinkers, deists, et al are lacking the very thing that holds most faith-communities together against all odds : Faith with a capital F. What will your proposed group offer in the place of faith, that any of these other non-faith associations don't already have? confused

http://www.secularhumanism.org/

http://esse-free.yolasite.com/

http://www.positivedeism.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=13
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PostSubject: Re: Rational Interfaith Community Outreach   Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:12 pm

#1: I didn’t want to respond until I had an idea of what I was talking about. So I went to those groups you mentioned, and did some research, and this is what I found....

I’m sure that, for some Rationalists, unsure of where to belong, might be satisfied with an online forum. I’m also sure that some others might be satisfied with “belonging” to a perpheral group like the UU (once, while searching, I belonged to CUUPS.

I am of the opinion that most people, even the Rationalists, want to 1) belong to “something,” and 2) want to “do good.” That’s a major reason that many Atheists give to charitable organizations that are theist in focus, because there’s nothing that channels their charitable instincts in their own little “corner of the world.” There’s certainly nothing like that here in Los Angeles…. Or it’s very well hidden, from even the concerted search.

The RICO group will “handle” that. My 501c3 “rational church” will sponsor it, under the umbrella of a “real church.” It’ll find worthwhile projects that need help, and allow Rationalist people to give money, time and resources without compromising their principles. You see, it’s my feeling that people aren’t hardwired for religion, per se, but they are “hardwired” for celebration and to create change. It’s been the opinion of certain self-righteous attitudes that people “without a religion” ‘can’t’ be noble, supportive or good. I don’t agree.

And, from what I’ve heard here and elsewhere, I’m not the only one who does. That’s what the RICO group is for.
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