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Aaron Admin

Number of posts: 1914 Age: 42 Location:: Connecticut Registration date: 2007-01-24
 | Subject: The Natures of Whitehead's God Fri May 08, 2009 10:38 am | |
| This is an interesting (if somewhat obtuse) essay on the nature of A. N. Whitehead's god model. My god model is very similar to Whitehead's although rather than using "primordial nature" and "consequent nature" to describe the different aspects of god I use "the unmanifest" and "the manifest" respectively. | Quote: | The ‘Natures’ of Whitehead’s God by John W. Lansing
In Process and Reality Alfred North Whitehead dealt extensively with God as an indispensable part of his metaphysical system, as that without which there would be no order or novelty and, hence, no world. He also insisted that God as an actual entity is not an exception to the metaphysical categories. God is actual by virtue of his being a whole actual entity rather than by virtue of any particular aspect of his nature. No aspect of God can exist apart from the whole which it characterizes. Nevertheless, Whitehead often dealt with God in terms of aspects abstracted from the concrete whole, frequently in isolation from one another. Thus, in a large portion of Process and Reality he speaks of God in terms of his "primordial nature," in the last ten pages discusses the "consequent nature," and in at least one place mentions the "superjective nature." This compartmentalized treatment and an occasional poor choice of words often results in the unintended suggestion that the various "natures" are genuinely separable and even independently actual. This problem has been noted by several commentators and even acknowledged by Whitehead.1
The idea that the primordial and consequent natures are separate actual entities, each existing in relative independence from the other, has been generally laid to rest by Whitehead scholars. There remains a further issue, however, which needs more discussion: Are the natures of God to be understood as distinguishable parts which, added together, make up the unified actual entity, God? Although each part must rely upon the whole of God for its existence, does each part have its own distinctive functions, operating with some degree of independence from the other parts? Is it appropriate to say, "The primordial nature of God does A and B, while the consequent nature is the component that does C and D"? Indeed, some quite competent Whitehead scholars have written as if the natures of God were distinguishable parts each with its own peculiar functions. We read, for example: "God’s primordial nature is but one half of his being -- the permanent side" (UW 56). "The actual entity that is needed to order the possibilities is called the primordial nature of God" (UW 101). And: ". . . these components of the actual entity God . . ." (WTR 59). Expressions such as, "X orders A," "A is a function of X," "X is responsible for A," "A is affected by X," "X is the active element," or "X is the passive component" imply that X is not itself a function or mode of functioning, but, instead, is that which does the functioning. This language seems to be based upon the model of the eyes, hands, and liver of a body, each of which is a distinguishable part and has its distinctive functions. The result tends to undermine the unity of God as an actual entity and, especially, the unity of God’s functioning.
In contrast to the foregoing, our contention will be that the "natures" of God can better be understood, not as distinguishable parts, but as ways of indicating various interdependent modes of functioning by the whole actual entity, God. The words "primordial nature," "consequent nature," and "superjective nature" should not be taken as nouns referring to different elements of God, each of which is an agent with its own distinctive functions. Instead, they should be treated as adjectives describing the character of how God as a whole functions in relation to the world and to the eternal objects. This modification, while it is at variance with some of Whitehead’s statements about God, nevertheless provides an understanding of God more in harmony with the fundamental insights of his system. It is in accord with Whitehead’s emphasis upon the subjective unity of an actual entity, that an entity acts as a whole, and with the indivisible unity of polar opposites, particularly God and the world. In order to show this we shall first describe the functions Whitehead assigned to the various natures and then see if they can perform those functions in relative independence of one another.
The primordial nature of God receives the greatest attention from Whitehead. It is "the unconditioned conceptual valuation of the entire multiplicity of eternal objects" (PR 46). This unity of conceptual feelings is "a free creative act, untrammeled by reference to any particular course of things" (PR 552). It is thus nontemporal in that it is truly universal, not defined by reference to any particular historical event... |
You can read on here. http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=2431 _________________ "Enjoy every sandwich" ~ Warren Zevon
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|  | | Gnomon Moderator
Number of posts: 660 Location:: Birmingham, Alabama Registration date: 2007-09-30
 | |  | | stretmediq

Number of posts: 238 Age: 54 Location:: Tulsa, Ok. Registration date: 2007-10-04
 | Subject: Re: The Natures of Whitehead's God Fri May 08, 2009 3:08 pm | |
| I think of it like a coin. A coin has two sides. In a 3 dimensional world it must have two sides. And each side is distinct. But we can only see one side at a time. |
|  | | Ian

Number of posts: 8 Registration date: 2009-05-21
 | Subject: Re: The Natures of Whitehead's God Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:51 am | |
| | Aaron wrote: | | My god model is very similar to Whitehead's although rather than using "primordial nature" and "consequent nature" to describe the different aspects of god I use "the unmanifest" and "the manifest" respectively. |
Could you explain the difference? |
|  | | Aaron Admin

Number of posts: 1914 Age: 42 Location:: Connecticut Registration date: 2007-01-24
 | Subject: Re: The Natures of Whitehead's God Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:30 am | |
| | Ian Huyett wrote: | | Aaron wrote: | | My god model is very similar to Whitehead's although rather than using "primordial nature" and "consequent nature" to describe the different aspects of god I use "the unmanifest" and "the manifest" respectively. |
Could you explain the difference? |
Between Whitehead's terminology and what I use or between the manifest and the unmanifest? _________________ "Enjoy every sandwich" ~ Warren Zevon
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|  | | Ian

Number of posts: 8 Registration date: 2009-05-21
 | Subject: Re: The Natures of Whitehead's God Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:10 pm | |
| Terminology. How does primordial-consequent differ from unmanifest-manifest? |
|  | | Aaron Admin

Number of posts: 1914 Age: 42 Location:: Connecticut Registration date: 2007-01-24
 | Subject: Re: The Natures of Whitehead's God Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:31 pm | |
| I think Whitehead imposes more atributes to the "primordial" than I feel comfortable with but other than that there's not a lot of difference in a general sense. _________________ "Enjoy every sandwich" ~ Warren Zevon
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|  | | Gnomon Moderator
Number of posts: 660 Location:: Birmingham, Alabama Registration date: 2007-09-30
 | |  | | Steve Esser
Number of posts: 15 Age: 48 Location:: Villanova, Pennsylvania, United States Registration date: 2007-11-19
 | Subject: Re: The Natures of Whitehead's God Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:39 pm | |
| A couple of comments, if I may.
First, it occurs to me that if 80 years ago Whitehead had been able to write more clearly and with less invented terminology, we all might be alot further along the path than we are now. He makes alot of sense to me when I think I can figure out what he is saying.
Second, I liked your take there Gnomon. Once you have the "omniverse", you are very close to a panendeistic "God". I have thought about that point of whether this entity is a subject of experience, and that is a tough one, since we're not talking about an entitiy which is a person in the usual sense. If I'm forced to guess, I'd say yes. |
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